■ Broadcast: MBC Radio Standard FM 95.9MHz <김종배의 시선집중>(07:05 to 08:30)

■ Proceedings: Kim Jong-bae, Current Affairs Critic

■ Interview: Lee Kwang-jae, president-elect of the Democratic Party (Post-Coroner’s Office, MDP National Crisis Committee)

☏ Moderator • This Week Us <시선집중>In this way, we’ve divided the changes caused by Corona19 into four areas: labor, commerce, education, and healthcare. Today is the last time, and we’re going to talk about comprehensive measures. He served as director of Yeo Sijae, a think tank that establishes future strategies through the governor of Gangwon Province. He returned to the country after winning the kangwon wonju gwanin in the upcoming general elections. I connect with president-elect Lee Kwang-jae, who is the head of the Post-Coroner’s Committee for the Overcoming The Democratic National Committee. You’re out!

☏ Lee Kwang-jae > Hello?

☏ Moderator > Hello? I congratulate you for your election. What would it be like if the government and the president-elect mentioned the New Deal and painted what they called the New Deal?

☏, i think that if we compare president Kim Tae-chung’s time with Roosevelt, one is investment toward the future, and one is community recovery for the socially weak, and eventually we create new jobs and economic vitality.

☏ moderators : It seems abstract in a too large framework, but let’s ask you from the investment sector. What is the main focus of investing for the future?

☏, lee Kwangjae , investment for the future, we realized that what we found this time was that life sciences would be a key industry in the future. And we’ve been the number one doctor in the country for 60 years, and we’re going to go to the life sciences industry because we haven’t had a future industry yet. The second is that when you look at online education and shopping, you have to go to the digital world at a rapid pace, and the third is that corona is a second and third because of the ecological crisis, so you need a green new deal, and the fourth is that you need to commute less and more when digital society comes, you have to live in a society that is less expensive, and a new city is bound to come out. After all, we can see that we are the future. And then, if you say another community, you’re going to have a lot of challenges when the digital community evolves. I think that this society will continue to go out and reduce the fallout and eventually create a community by making sure that these two directions are evenly distributed through the social underdog.

☏ moderators > I understand. Because it’s a big picture, what’s in the big picture leads to the problem of big capital being mobilized, so some people are concerned that this will eventually deepen the economic structure centered on large corporations. How do you accept this?

☏, I think that i don’t see it as a country, but rather that it’s very important for a lot of people to see it as a country, and on the other hand, it’s clear that we’re a local city, and that the place where I live is important and the town is important. If that happens, it becomes important for the country to see that the role of one is becoming very important when we think of means. And in the end, if you’re going to have to make a transition, you’re going to have to pay for it, whether it’s a country or a market. The role of the state is already determined, and if we look at the financial assets that we have in the market, we see that we have 2100 trillion dollars in real estate, 2000 trillion in corporate reserves, and 700 trillion kic (Korea Investment Corporation) such as national pensions, so that we can work together with the country and the market to make future changes, rather than with large capital.

☏ moderators : I’m going to ask you a question while conveying one more concern that is coming out now.

☏ Lee Kwang-jae > Good.

☏ moderators : There are some concerns that this will eventually lead to deregulation. How do you accept this?

☏, the evolution of the digital society has become unavoidable in some ways if we look at online education, for example. Deregulation will be partially created. But deregulation would lead to difficult neighborhoods for our school education or people who don’t have digital education. It’s almost as if we’ve done the Korea-U.S. FTA in the past, we’ve made about 100 trillion won to protect farmers, and we’ve created a fund for the film industry, and when a lot of filmmakers came from Sejong Gwanghwamun, we’ve got a lot of filmmakers, and we’re going to have to go in the direction of society, and then we need a compromise, and we’re going to have to work to survive together, and I think that’s a compromise and a new deal.

☏ moderators > For example, this is the case. We looked at the medical field yesterday, and the fact that it’s been a huge controversy in South Korean society for almost 20 years is whether or not we allow telemedicine. That’s a question, for example. Could it be an alternative to say that this is all solved? So that’s a question.

☏ Lee Kwang-jae > Of course. If we look at the American health care system this time, and it’s a matter of time before a person comes to the hospital one day, they’re going to have to pay tens of millions of dollars. On the other hand, the european doctors are becoming more like civil servants, so even with this, the marketability should not be too far off. You know, our health insurance system is pretty stable. We also found out that we have done it in some areas in Daegu, but that non-face-to-face medical care is bound to appear in the future.

☏ moderators > Yes.

☏ Lee Kwang-jae , but there are a lot of doctors here and interests. So, when i was meeting in the Prime Minister’s office yesterday, let’s not use the word telemedicine in the future, but let’s create such a concept of smart care. Because in the future, human beings are not dying from cancer, and depression becomes the greatest future disease of mankind, so that we have to coexist with two things that we can receive ai or non-face-to-face data while receiving care care is much more important, so that the community is not maintained too much, and it is too rigid. After all, it’s not telemedicine, but rather what’s practical, what’s closer to the truth, who has the more accurate service to the people, and we came up with the concept of smart healthcare, and that was the content of yesterday’s discussion.

☏ moderators : Can you understand that much of the discussion has now progressed between the parties regarding the New Deal?

☏ Lee Kwang-jae , i think yesterday, about one direction was discussed. In the future, the party and the whole nation, this is not a genius. This time, when we were in corona, we had trouble with masks at first, but we had a lot of drive-thrus and a lot of people came up with ideas. Likewise, i think that the Korean community will enter into a society of all-american texts, and that we should work together, and that this is not a matter that any one ministry can decide, but a matter that will be decided through a national comprehensive discussion mechanism. I think we’ll have to take the time and make a decision without too much delay.

☏ moderators : But if you’ve said that you’ve invested in the future, and you’re assuming that this investment is made, it’s a rough calculation of the jobs that are now gone and the new jobs that are created, and i wonder if this is the case.

☏ Lee Kwang-jae > I see that part of it like this. I think we need to be clear about what kind of policy we are in today, even if we have a data department or a data agency. This time, when you look at the basic income of the disaster, it’s complicated. In fact, there’s real estate information, irs information, homeland security information, health insurance information, and employment insurance information all playing separately by department. By integrating this as a whole, i think it’s very important to start with the exact situation by creating a data department or data agency first, where people are hurting and where they can afford.

☏ moderators • Is this a completely different approach from the existing Census Bureau?

☏ Lee Kwang-jae > Yes. Because, if you look at the Census Bureau, census surveys happen every few years. But we’re going to have to give unemployment benefits right now. However, it is impossible to have a policy without data from the days of President Roh Moo-hyun, if this is separate from all ministries. And now, when the big data era comes, it’s even more like that. Once you’ve done exactly that, and you see it a second time, let’s take an example if you’re investing in the future and eventually doing community-type jobs and two. Anyway, if we see fine dust or the car market in the future, we have to go to electric cars. So, if electric vehicles are eliminated from the development consumption tax at all, and subsidies go out into electric vehicles, will the air be clean and batteries, battlefields, and industries will be promising? On the other hand, if you go to this, and on the other hand, the community, on the other hand, you see in the days of President Kim Tae-chung, you put 4 trillion won into the electronic government, and then you put 4 trillion won into the electronic government, and then all the college students were working in the digital archives of the Joseon Dynasty, and then all the movies in the past were digital archives, and they did a lot of part-time work, and they opened the kosdaq, and they ended up getting up. There are a lot of people who can do e-government jobs with these college students, but they can’t even do this, in fact, our society. Then, Kon-woo LeeI think that if cleaning the environment is an important issue in human life in the future, we will re-create the Green New Deal, find new opportunities for people to work and hire, and that together, the future of business, public form, and public form, and going to the future, and going to the future, and the people will be more relieved when the policy is written.

☏ Moderator : What do you think of national employment insurance plans?

☏ Lee Kwang-jae , this is a very difficult problem for me. There are currently 27.35 million full-time employees, 15 million people enrolled in employment insurance, and 12.36 million uninsured. So the first thing we need is a national discussion mechanism. And then the second thing we’re going to worry about is that the industrialization era has caused companies to hire. But as we enter the digital age, we’re getting more companies with fewer people, and fewer jobs. So how do we take it to the digital age model, not the industrialized era model, and thirdly, if employment becomes very unstable, then we have to discuss how we’re going to build a basic income or the minimum foundation for human life, so it’s not a matter that can only be applied to the national and Korean. That’s why we really need to gather wisdom and deal with it. But what is clear is now the fundamental question of how this human being should live and what is the country. We’re going to go into the digital age, and I think we’re going to have to find the answer together.

☏ moderators : Now, what did the president-elect say is that the concept of basic income came out briefly, and you think it’s time to start discussing how to institutionalize this basic income?

☏, I think, in principle, countries should reduce taxes directly to the general public as much as possible. But the crisis has come, and the second is, secondly, what’s fundamental in the industrial economic model of the past is that when companies get hired, they pay taxes, they pay taxes, and the people have a virtuous cycle. But if this structure itself changes something, it’s going to be a different way of survival, then the basic income is going to be taxed, and what’s being discussed a lot now is that the data should go in the form of a certain payment to the person who has the data, so if a lot of people create data departments and create data banks and use my data, what’s the biggest issue of the Davos Forum earlier this year? So, if we use this big data, how we’re going to pay for it, and if this is discussed in the future, we’ll just have to think about handing out money from taxes, but I think society can be much more forward-looking if we accept it from the part where we use and use it.

☏ moderators • You can understand that there may be a shift in ideas in financing, what are you talking about now?

☏, I think we’re the biggest public goods in the agricultural era, and it’s salt and iron. In the era of industrialization, electricity and water and water are like this. The biggest public goods in the digital age are, after all, we have to be 5G or infrastructure, and one is data and platform, and then we have to be a public asset. Now, i think that certain large corporations are not wielding everything, but my medical data and my data are mine, and if i use them, I’ll end up with a structure that pays for it.

☏ moderators > I understand. There’s a lot to ask, so i’ll wrap up the interview here today, asking for another interview.

thank you ☏ Lee Kwang-jae .

☏ moderators > Thank you. So far, he was the president-elect of the Democratic National Committee, Lee Kwang-jae, who is the head of the post-coroner’s office.

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